I am planning to work on the bookmarks code, so I am hoping you do not change the code right away. What I am wondering is if you could make the bookmarks like 4.x browsers where there is a button and an icon you can drag into it. I believe I am not the only person who has grown attached to that.

This is a new product, so we look at new ways to do thinks. I'll cc the appropriate folks for you request. They may have some comment.s

I'm sure I've seen a bug somewhere about adding this to Moz, ie it is intended.

I am probably not going to edit the bookmark code until XMAS vacation, if I do.

At least could you make it so you could drag the icon to the menu, like in 4.x?

You can edit the way the user interface is set up using XUL, a XML interface Mozilla uses to define the UI. A enhancement has been filed to move things around within the browser - see bug #17306.

D'oh, I only just realised what you were talking about. Ignore my prior comments. Would the NC4 add bookmark and file bookmark here features be enough? Maybe they should be added to the bookmarks drop-down, or attached to right click.

Not really - the icon is a lot faster and easier, and gives more control on where to place the bookmark.

I don't see that it's quicker - both are as simple as a click and drag. I can't comment on the "drag into menu" feature though since it doesn't seem to occur on my Linux NC4.7. Did this allow specific precision, ie where to place the item within a folder, or just which folder to put it in?

You move it to a folder and then drop it somewhere in the folder. You get to choose where in the folder it goes and after what other links.

OK. I've heard that at some stage it's likely will be some capability to right click on a bookmark in the menu, for example, to remove it. An "Add Current Page Here" could achieve this.

I think it would be good to have the ability to drag it (and select folder in add bookmarks) because everyone likes to do something in a different way. I think the ability to be able to right click on a folder and choose "add here" as you said would also be good. There should also be an option to delete folder, or delete links, view properties, etc. It is too annoying to go into the "Edit Bookmarks" Every time you want to change a bookmark location. If you want to, say, move a book mark to a new folder, it would be nice to be able to right click, choose add folder, drag a bookmark to that folder from its previous location in the menu, and move the folder so that its in the right place.

Personally, I'll be satisfied when it supports the "file" option.

Regarding the patch I've just attached... it's my first attempt at doing anything with Mozilla, so I don't really know if it's the right way to go about it (and my knowledge of Javascript, the DOM, and RDF is pretty limited). But it seems to work for me.

Move to "Future" milestone.

don, we have a patch for this - can we review it before moving to future?

filing bookmarks like NS 4.x is already bug 41888. Since this bug wa morphed in the first place this might be a good time to repurpose it to the original request.

Bug 50502 is related.

I believe this bug is a horrible muddled mess. There seem to other bugs tracking specific related issues. It might be time for this bug to just go away. My comments are prompted by the fact that the summary is useless, and I couldn't come up with anything to save it. If someone else can state the clear, specific, non-duplicate purpose of this bug then fine, otherwise I'll make it disappear.

claudius: this bug has been evily morphed into a "File Bookmark" but this wasn't the bug reported. If there's a bug for drag and drop of the current URL (via a bookmark icon next to the location bar - as in 4.x) then mark this a dupe of that. Although... this functionality appears to already be implemented (however broken it might be) my linux build 2000083106 has a bookmark icon next to the location bar that is draggable. But I can't drop that bookmark into the bookmark menu at all...

you want to D&D the current URL to the (now) optional bookmarks popup menu on the personl/bookmarks toolbar? I don't recall a dupe for that. Feel free to change the summary to reflect as much if that's what this bug should be for.

updating summary. 4.x had D&D capabilities into the personal toolbar bookmark menu. Since Mozilla makes the personal toolbar bookmark menu optional (and not default) D&D to the main Bookmarks Menu would be preferred - although either would be good.

Sounds good. Since other bugs talk about the right click feature, I think we should leave that out. I added (icon) to the summary because it is most important that you can drag that icon in the Url text box. You talked about people being able to add their own functionality (through XUL). I doubt many will do that, so the default XUL should contain this functionality.

Since Don has left, Vishy is taking his bugs in bulk, pending reassignment. thanks, Vishy

Netscape Nav Triage Team: dupe of a newer bug 41888 or vice versa?

I'd say this is a dup of bug 53707, or at least this bug depends on it.

Adding depends because even though that other bug is newer, this one depends on it.

See also bug 50505 which is the ability to drag bookmarks already in the menu.

Not a dupe of bug 41888. That is about ability to File Bookmark.

Adding helpwanted keyword as this bug is futured and depends on a futured bug. In NN 4.x, it is also possible to drag a link (either the page proxy icon between the Bookmarks menu and the word "Location" on the toolbar, or *any link on the page*), into any folder on the personal toolbar. As the toolbar version of the Bookmarks menu lives there as a folder now, that functionality should come with no extra effort once this feature is working. The only reason I can think of why this RFE, asking for implementation of *the* most unique feature in NN 4.x, has not long since been fixed, is that the Bookmarks sidebar is meant to replace it. Yes, the latter does provide the ability to file bookmarks by d-n-d to a specific position, but: 1. The horizontal space needed by the sidebar sometimes isn't available. More and more websites are requiring 800 px of browser width; even at 1024 by 768, that doesn't give much width for seeing the bookmarks in an outline view, even if you maximize the Mozilla window. By contrast, the 4.x version only takes up screen real estate when it is the focal point of what the user is doing, i.e., after the drag has begun, and until the drop. 2. Before adding a bookmark to a specific folder by drag and drop, that folder must be visible; if you want to drop it at a specific position in the folder, the folder must be open. That can mean a few clicks on twisties and the scrollbar if the bookmarks file has more than one level of folders, or any of the folders has many items in it. But wait! I already started dragging the link. Now I have to either cancel, open the folder I want, and start over, or drop it someplace visible and then reposition it. By contrast, in 4.x folders open upon hovering over them in the cascading menu, so that the entire action can be done in a single drag-and-drop gesture. 3. Folders in the Bookmarks sidebar stay open. That's great if you want to add several bookmarks in the same folder, but annoying if you want to add a bookmark to another folder later: you're faced with either lots of scrolling with more than one folder open, or closing the open folder before locating and opening the currently-desired folder, before the drag and drop can begin. This just adds to the interruptive burden described in (2); in 4.x, since the cascading menu disappears after placing the link, this isn't an issue at all. 4. The outline view of the bookmarks in the sidebar is not well suited to displaying folders more than one or two levels in from the root. The deeper in, the further indented, the more of each bookmark's title gets clipped off. By contrast, the cascading menu, in both 4.x and Mozilla, provides a generous width for bookmark titles, at all levels, and can use much of the entire desktop area as required. In 4.x, that helps for placing bookmarks further in than the top level, at the position desired, by making more of the neighbour bookmarks' titles visible. 5. The presence of other tabs in the sidebar restricts the number of bookmark items visible at once; the more tabs, the fewer visible bookmarks. If a user begins collecting bookmarks on a topic, not knowing ahead of time what sub-folders might be desired, the best way to organize them is by ad-hoc positioning in a folder. Imagine a schoolchild doing a project on Lions: Zoo pages at the top, picture pages in the middle, informative pages at the bottom of the folder. With the default sidebar tabs, about 10 fewer items fit in the sidebar than are visible in one column from the personal toolbar (assuming the Mozilla window is maximum-height), increasing the impact of problem (2). By contrast, the cascading menu from the personal toolbar can use the full height of the screen, *and* use more than one coumn per folder, so a new bookmark can be positioned exactly where desired among many more items. In general, the Bookmark sidebar often requires adjustment to make the right portion visible before placing the new bookmark, thereby making the one-action, one drag-and-drop-gesture simplicity of the 4.x feature impossible. For me, this bug is catfood -- I still use 4.76 daily because I use the browser for work, not play, and none of the bookmark-filing features in Mozilla lets be get on with my work as well -- and also dogfood: I consequently do much less testing of Mozilla than I otherwise would.

nominating for nsbeta1. reassigning to ben. clearing priority to ---.

nav triage: this is not critical for this release. Hence marking nsbeta1- and nsCatFood-.

Should we look at getting this in for Mozilla 1.0? Can we make the url icon draggable to both menus?

*** Bug 87020 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 88625 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 86215 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

As it stands right now, we have the ability to do this into the Personal Toolbar Bookmarks menu. We cannot however Drag and Drop into the Main Menu Bar. this is build 20010921. I believe there is an issue with dragging anything to the menu bar itself, and there is a bug to make the code for both bookmarks menus the same. that's bug 78050.

The drag and drop into the personal toolbar bookmarks menu is still partial when compared to Netscape 4.x. In current mozilla builds, subfolders (folders below the top level) do not open when you drag the link on to them. See bug 100479.

Setting Mozilla 1.0. There's a requirement for "ability to add bookmark to a specific location within a folder" and this is one way to do it.

Paul Chen is now taking Bookmarks bugs. For your convenience, you can filter email notifications caused by this by searching for 'ilikegoats'.

Marking dup of 100479 since that's the real problem with drag and drop to the bookmarks popup menu right now. As for dropping on the main menubar, ain't gonna happen cross platform because of mac. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 100479 ***

I hate to see old bugs get duped but oh well. VERIFIED Dupe

Also a dup of bug 114962 (Bookmark menu in menu bar should open when link is dragged over it).