When i first ran M5 for the mac App runner, it took approximately 30-45 seconds for it to load and another 15 seconds for it to become usuable. When M5 first loaded its internal page, no text showed up in the right frame, thinking it didnt get redrawn correctly, I collapsed the window then opened it again, all i saw was a blank screen. I clicked around where the buttons such as back and forward was, the screen finally redrew itself, but the right frame was still blank. Opening the preferences screen was not of much help too, as only the checkboxes and radio buttons showed up. I cannot figure out why it is slow in redrawing and loading... I have a Umax Supermac J700/180 with 86 mb of physical ram, 90 virtual... the default amount of ram is allocated to Appviewer which would be 10 mb of ram... The computer is running a late beta release of 8.6.. 8.6b4, which is the onme just before the GM i believe.. and the GM has yet to come out... The video card is the OEM Ixmicro Twin Turbo 2 mb and has never given me any problems in the past... Once when I was running Apprunner, I suffered a system crash, Since I had macsbug installed, it recorded thje crash, but i dont know how to give it to you guys... Aaron

start up is slow right now. we will need the stack trace to track this down.

We know, we know... It's slow. Resolved as LATER. If you experience a crash, please send us a stack trace ('stdlog' under Macsbug). Thanks!

Verifying as a Later.

Reopening my LATER's bugs

Closing as WorksForMe. The crash is obsolete and the slowness at startup is a dup of another bug.